{"id":1131,"date":"2018-11-22T19:13:11","date_gmt":"2018-11-22T19:13:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/?p=1131"},"modified":"2018-11-22T20:47:57","modified_gmt":"2018-11-22T20:47:57","slug":"david-burkus-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/david-burkus-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Bestselling Author David Burkus On Background Noise, The Biggest Myth About Writing, And Work\/Life Integration"},"content":{"rendered":"

Who:<\/strong>\u00a0David Burkus<\/p>\n

Claim To Fame:<\/strong>\u00a0David Burkus is the bestselling author of\u00a0The Myths Of Creativity<\/a>, Under New Management<\/a>,\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0Friend Of A Friend<\/a>.\u00a0<\/em>He is\u00a0a regular contributor to\u00a0Harvard Business Review<\/em>\u00a0and his work has been featured in\u00a0Fast Company, the\u00a0Financial Times, Inc\u00a0magazine, Bloomberg BusinessWeek, and\u00a0CBS This Morning.\u00a0He is associate professor of leadership and innovation at Oral Roberts University where he was recently named one of the nation\u2019s \u201cTop 40 Under 40 Professors Who Inspire.\u201d And his\u00a0TED talk<\/a>\u00a0has been viewed over 1.8 million times.<\/p>\n

Where To Find David:<\/strong>\u00a0His\u00a0Website<\/a>,\u00a0Amazon<\/a>,\u00a0Twitter<\/a>,\u00a0Instagram<\/a><\/p>\n

Praise For David:<\/strong>\u00a0\u201cDavid Burkus is one of the world\u2019s most highly-regarded young business thinkers \u2014 and this book shows why. FRIEND OF A FRIEND<\/a> is packed unexpected insights about networking, all build atop a solid foundation of social science.”<\/em> \u2014\u00a0Daniel H. Pink, bestselling author of DRIVE<\/em><\/a> and WHEN<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n

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When do you like to write? Are you regimented about your writing routine<\/a>?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

I tend to write in the mornings<\/a>, not because I like it, but because it\u2019s what works best in my schedule. I wake up, get the family ready for the day, and then settle into my office downstairs. If I\u2019m writing a book, I\u2019m very regimented about hitting my 500-1000 word goal for the day before anything else. If I\u2019m not in the midst of a book project, then the word count is less important than just using that time to do \u201cproactive work,\u201d meaning work that involves making something or planning the making of something.<\/p>\n

At about 10 or 10:30 (assuming I hit the word count), I leave for the gym to workout, then have lunch, then back to my office but this time for \u201creactive work\u201d like emails, interviews, phone calls, or anything else. Afternoons are also when I film episodes of my DailyBurk<\/em><\/a> video series, which is technically proactive work but the lighting is way better in the afternoons.<\/p>\n

Do you have any pre-writing rituals<\/a> or habits? Anything you do when the writing isn\u2019t coming easy?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

If I\u2019m writing a book, then I guess my biggest pre-writing routine is research. I\u2019m always collecting a lot of different material and, before writing about it, I sort it by where I think it will go in the mental map of the book. Which means there are sometimes 10-15 piles of papers on my office floor. So before any writing for the day, I go back and look through whatever pile is the focus for the day and re-read everything.<\/p>\n

Your background is in organizational psychology. Do you apply that to your writing routine?\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n

I do\u2026in a couple ways. Forgive how nerdy this is about to get.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s some interesting research on the right level of ambient noise for working; I\u2019ve written about it in the past<\/a>. Basically, you want something the rises to the level of light chatter, the type you\u2019d find in a coffee shop or hotel lobby. You also don\u2019t want it to be too loud or too likely to draw you in. So I have a playlist of music literally called \u201cAmbient\u201d that is a good rhythm, not too distracting, and either doesn\u2019t have words or has words I wouldn\u2019t really understand anyway. I started with Brian Eno\u2019s \u201cMusic For Airports\u201d (the gold standard for ambient music) but I\u2019m always looking for artists to add. Recently, I owe a debt of thanks to Casey Neistat for tipping me off to some cool unknown artists by using their songs in his movies.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s also a wealth of findings around progress as a potent human motivator<\/a>. We want to know we\u2019re making progress on something. This is the only reason I\u2019ve stuck with Scrivener as the writing software for my first draft. I\u2019m not the biggest fan of the software itself, but I couldn\u2019t do without the way it has you set a target word count and then tracks your daily progress. I live for the satisfying little \u201cding\u201d that tells me I\u2019ve hit my word count for the day.<\/p>\n

What would you say is the ideal work environment<\/a> for a writer? Have you found any commonalities or anything specific about your office that contributes to your productivity?<\/span><\/h3>\n

I\u00a0wrote a piece<\/a>\u00a0a while back about work\/life balance being overrated and work\/life integration being a better option over the long-term. The key is that if you flip back and forth between work and family\/life issues, even if it’s as little as stepping out to make a \u201clife\u201d related phone call, then you\u2019re better able to handle the stress of when one sphere interferes with the other (like a family emergency). I found my office kind of plays to that well. Basically, my office is tucked away in a part of the house that you\u2019d only be in if you\u2019re working. So even though the commute is a few steps, it gets me into \u201cwork” mode. But its only a few steps to walk back into the living areas and do something \u201clife.\u201d So I flip back a couple times a day and, at first, it really frustrated me because I was coming from a 9-5 environment. Now, I wouldn\u2019t trade it for anything.<\/p>\n

Your first book The Myths of Creativity<\/em><\/a> demystifies some of the forces behind innovation. Do you think there are any great myths about the writing process?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Writer\u2019s block is the biggest myth out there. The idea that you\u2019re just lost for any possible words isn\u2019t some vague illness that strikes people when they\u2019re trying to be creative. You\u2019re not missing the words; you\u2019re missing the research<\/a>. All ideas are combination of preexisting ideas. So if you\u2019re \u201cout\u201d of new ideas it\u2019s probably because you don\u2019t have enough old ideas to combine.<\/p>\n

Go back and read more. Or spend more time mapping out the book. Don\u2019t show up to the keyboard without a plan and then tell the world you have writer\u2019s block. You\u2019re lying to us, and to yourself.<\/p>\n

You have written three books. Given what you now know, what would you tell the David setting out to write his first book?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

\u201cGive yourself a longer runway.\u201d It\u2019s not advice about writing but more about getting an idea to spread (which for me was the point of writing in the first place). It takes time. I had a lot of misconceptions about just how much noise was out there to push a signal through and how long it would take. Overnight successes tend to take 10-20 years.<\/p>\n

Writers have to be master prioritizers \u2013 juggling all sorts of projects and deadlines at the same time. That\u2019s certainly the case for you. Do you have any methods for managing tasks and time so to stay productive and not let overwhelm sneak in?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

I sort of got at this in my daily routine. The reason I divide my day the way I do isn\u2019t that my gym is open at odd hours. It\u2019s because I want to get the \u201cone big thing\u201d done first before anything else. Then celebrate by not<\/strong> working for an hour or so. I focus on that all morning and trust that I have all afternoon to deal with whatever wants to compete for my attention.<\/p>\n

In terms of managing what to work on, I treat my computer desktop as a queue for my work. I sort files in columns from left to right, from \u201cto do\u201d to \u201cdone.\u201d Here\u2019s a screenshot from this morning:<\/p>\n

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What writers and\/or books do you consider the gold standard?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

I\u2019ve always seen Daniel Pink\u2019s<\/a> work as the model to which I aspire. I\u2019ve been shameless about sharing my aspiration to be known as the \u201cnext\u201d Pink. I\u2019d even settle for \u201cnext NEXT\u201d if someone else beats me to it. To me, his work is the right blend of storytelling, science, and (importantly) a prescription for working smarter.<\/p>\n

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