{"id":1405,"date":"2019-07-04T18:44:18","date_gmt":"2019-07-04T17:44:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/?p=1405"},"modified":"2019-07-05T03:46:32","modified_gmt":"2019-07-05T02:46:32","slug":"jessica-lahey-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/jessica-lahey-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Bestselling Author Jessica Lahey On Her Research Process, Keeping Your Butt In The Chair, and &#8220;Stickers&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Who:<\/strong>\u00a0Jessica Lahey<\/p>\n<p><strong>Claim To Fame:\u00a0<\/strong>Jessica Lahey\u00a0is a teacher, writer, and mom. She writes about education, parenting, and child welfare for\u00a0<em>The<\/em>\u00a0<em>Atlantic,<\/em>\u00a0Vermont Public Radio,\u00a0<em>The Washington Post<\/em>\u00a0and the\u00a0<em>New York Times<\/em>\u00a0and is the author of the\u00a0<em>New York Times<\/em>\u00a0bestselling book,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/geni.us\/q1jkB\"><em>The Gift of Failure: How the Best Parents Learn to Let Go So Their Children Can Succeed<\/em>.<\/a> She is a member of the Amazon Studios Thought Leader Board and wrote the educational curriculum for Amazon Kids\u2019\u00a0<em>The Stinky and Dirty Show<\/em>. Her second book,\u00a0<em>The Addiction Inoculation: Raising Healthy Kids in a Culture of Dependence<\/em>, will be released in 2020.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Where To Find Jessica:<\/strong>\u00a0Her\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jessicalahey.com\/\">Website<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/geni.us\/QHHA\">Amazon<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jesslahey\">Twitter<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Praise For Jessica:\u00a0<\/strong><em>&#8220;It\u2019s hard to overstate the importance of this book.\u00a0The Gift of Failure\u00a0is beautifully written; it\u2019s deeply researched; but most of all it\u2019s the one book we all need to read if we want to instill the next generation\u00a0with confidence and joy.\u201d\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thepowerofintroverts.com\/about-the-author\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Susan Cain<\/a>,\u00a0author of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/geni.us\/NB8Bvpt\"><em>QUIET: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can\u2019t Stop Talking<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/20-famous-writers-on-when-they-do-their-best-work\/\">When<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/writers-workplaces\/\">where<\/a>\u00a0do you like to write? Are you the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/prolific-writers-routine\/\">same-thing-every-day kind of writer<\/a>\u00a0or can you write anytime, anywhere?<\/h3>\n<p>I write <a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/famous-writers-morning-routines\/\">in the mornings<\/a>, from around 8:30 or 9 until around four, when my kid gets home from school. Depending on my focus and groove, I can be done earlier or later, but I try not to get up (except to stretch and let the dogs in or out) until I have achieved my goal for the day.<\/p>\n<h3>Do you have any\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/pre-writing-rituals\/\">pre-writing rituals<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/strange-writing-habits\/\">habits<\/a>\u00a0before you sit down to write?<\/h3>\n<p>I don\u2019t get out of bed the moment I get up; I loll about in bed with the dogs (3 of them) in that half-awake state where my brain tends to be a little more open to ideas. I let it skim along from thing to thing, not in any directed fashion, just\u2026daydreaming, really. I do that for about twenty minutes. Then oatmeal and coffee at my desk while I check for email fires to put out. If there are no emergencies, all email and social media get shut down, I turn on a Spotify <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/playlist\/37i9dQZF1DX9sIqqvKsjG8\">\u201cInstrumental Focus\u201d<\/a> playlist (no vocals) and get to work.<\/p>\n<h3>Do you struggle at all with that dreaded enemy of writing:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/overcome-writers-block\/\">writer\u2019s block<\/a>? Do you think such a thing exists?<\/h3>\n<p>No, I don\u2019t believe it does. Not in my experience anyway. Even if it did, I think I\u2019d try to keep working on some writing project anyway, even if it\u2019s just for me and will never see the light of day. I\u2019ve had times when the words don\u2019t come easily, but I don\u2019t get out of the chair and give up. That reflex to get up and do something else when the writing is hard (on the <a href=\"http:\/\/amwritingpodcast.com\/\">#AmWriting podcast<\/a> we call it, \u201cOw! It hurts!&#8221;) is something I can\u2019t afford to nurture, because I\u2019d do it all the time. I know myself. I\u2019m weak that way.<\/p>\n<h3>All of your work is very <a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/i-research-3-new-york-times-bestselling-authors-spare-time\/\">research<\/a> intensive. What is your method for researching and organizing material that you might want to use for your future writing?<\/h3>\n<p>Oh, dear. Long answer to this one, and it\u2019s always an ongoing learning process for what works best. Currently, I use <a href=\"https:\/\/www.literatureandlatte.com\/scrivener\/overview\">Scrivener<\/a>, all chapters are folders, and all research studies are saved as a .pdf and filed with the project. I often print as well because I sticky tab and write notes on the study, and those go in magazine <a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/notecard-system-ryan-holiday\/\">boxes filed by topic or chapter<\/a>, and those go on my office bookshelves. Research books are shelved by topic. We moved in the middle of my deepest research dive, and I boxed the books up by chapter or topic, which was genius. All I had to do was unpack and shelve box by box. I use a lot of sticky tabs, color-coded for easy reference. One color for \u201ccome back to this, it\u2019s a great idea,\u201d another color for specific quotes I might want to use. When I read a research book, I take notes on it on the computer and each book gets its own document, filed under the title with an \u201cR\u201d for research in front for easy searching. That way, important quotes I might need are already typed out, and the notes are like my own private outline for stuff I might need. Emails regarding research, ideas (I often email myself to remember things), and interviews go in a folder for the book in my email app. Interview recordings get downloaded saved to their own folder. If I do a transcription, that gets saved with the recording and a copy goes in the Scrivener files. Everything gets saved to Dropbox AND I back up with Time Capsule AND and do an intermittent backup to a portable hard drive.<\/p>\n<h3>You\u2019re also an English and writing teacher. What are some lessons you hope that everyone who takes your class comes away with?<\/h3>\n<p>That what\u2019s written in books is not sacred, that you can disagree with, or dislike books, and that\u2019s fine. It\u2019s great, actually, because you are figuring out who YOU are and what you believe through your reading. Even better, if you disagree with an author on a point, why? What would you do differently than the author? What could you do BETTER than the author? I teach a lot of kids who have been raised to feel stupid or unworthy and the most important thing I do is help them feel as if their opinions, ideas, and tastes matter, and that they can push back when they don\u2019t believe what they read is true, ethical, right, justified, or honest.<\/p>\n<h3>In addition to everything else, you run an amazing <a href=\"http:\/\/amwritingpodcast.com\/\">podcast<\/a>. How has your podcast helped your writing? How has your writing helped your podcast? Are there lessons you\u2019ve been able to take from both paths and apply to the other?<\/h3>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/amwritingpodcast.com\/\">#AmWriting podcast<\/a> has been one of the best things I\u2019ve ever done for my writing, and I have KJ to thank for finally pushing me to just get started. It keeps us both accountable, honest, and thinking ahead to the next goal, project, or idea. We set goals each January and review them in June to see how we are doing. We learn SO much, especially from guests like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sarinabowen.com\/\">bestselling author and former Wall Street derivatives trader Sarina Bowen<\/a>, who is a number geek and breaks down algorithms and statistics and royalty statements for us like no one else can. Even when we disagree with our guests (<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/pk\/podcast\/109-sedarisserendipity\/id1099630313?i=1000412711098\">David Sedaris recommended on our show<\/a> that writers not seek publication, but be ready when <em>The New Yorker<\/em> comes to them), we learn something.<\/p>\n<h3>What does a successful writing day mean for you? And how do you finish out a day of writing? Do you have a process, or is it just that you know you\u2019ve hit a natural stopping point?<\/h3>\n<p>My two best friends (<a href=\"https:\/\/kjdellantonia.com\/\">KJ Dell\u2019Antonia<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sarinabowen.com\/\">Sarina Bowen<\/a>) are also writers, and our code for having met our writing goals is to text each other the word, \u201csticker!\u201d because when we are done for the day, we put a sticker in our calendar notebooks. The sticker means different things for different people and different phases of writing. Sometimes it means four hours of research. Sometimes it means 1200 words. KJ said yesterday when we were recording the podcast that June stickers equaled 500 words because she was on vacation for part of it and the rest was a terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad month for her. Even with those lower numbers, she still emerged from June with 9500 words she did not have on June 1. \u201cSticker\u201d is a term we use a lot on the podcast, and our listeners often share pictures of their stickers and calendars in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/485904005120809\/\">#AmWriting podcast Facebook group<\/a>, along with the questions, support, and celebrations. It\u2019s a fun place to hang out, and creating a community like that, a couple thousand writers helping each other with the work of writing, was one of our biggest goals for the podcast.<\/p>\n<h3>What\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/seven-books-every-aspiring-writer-must-read\/\">books<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/best-books-writing-process\/\">writers<\/a>\u00a0have most influenced the way you think and the way you write?<\/h3>\n<p>I turn to exemplary writers when I need to strike a particular tone in my own work. If I am feeling tired or weak but have to sound authoritative in my writing, I like to read or listen to brave, honest people who own their expertise and opinions. Today, for example, that person was Penn Jillette, of Penn &amp; Teller. My son and I were listening to his book, <a href=\"https:\/\/geni.us\/DkV1\"><em>Every Day is an Atheist Holiday<\/em><\/a> on the way to the dentist today, and his voice is a great example of someone who <em>really<\/em> doesn\u2019t give a shit about his detractors.<\/p>\n<p>To bolster my honest voice, I keep <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/pk\/podcast\/141-itstruesowriteit\/id1099630313?i=1000427432709\">Janelle Hanchett<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/jugglingthejenkins.com\/\">Tiffany Jenkins<\/a>, authors of the addiction memoirs <a href=\"https:\/\/geni.us\/wCGL0I\"><em>I\u2019m Just Happy to Be Here<\/em><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/geni.us\/mYi7Hd\"><em>High Achiever<\/em><\/a> close by. Both of these women went to dark, dark places in the throes of their addictions, and neither are afraid or ashamed in their writing. A big part theme in my new book is about helping kids be healthier by banishing secrets and shame, and Janelle and Tiffany are great role models for that theme and tone.<\/p>\n<h3>What is your\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/expert-advice-to-aspring-writers\/\">advice to aspiring writers<\/a>?<\/h3>\n<p>Keep your butt in the chair and your head in the game. That\u2019s our podcast catchphrase, and it\u2019s the simplest path to earning my sticker every day.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">___________<\/p>\n<h3 id=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-ccd1\" class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf--h3 m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf--leading\">Ready to create a writing routine of your\u00a0own?<\/h3>\n<p id=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-9a9e\" class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf--p m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf-after--h3\">Sign up now and receive our free guide\u00a0<em>\u201c<a class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--anchor m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/subscribe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?hl=en&amp;q=https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/subscribe\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1514038873687000&amp;usg=AFQjCNH5yl1byOuXmZDdLI8muC9FJDeFvg\"><span class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--strong m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--p-strong\">12 Essential Writing Routines To Help You To Craft Your Own<\/span><\/a><span class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--strong m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--p-strong\">.\u201d<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p id=\"m_-8554750413077525544e4c2\" class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf--p m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf-after--p\">Learn from the routines of superstar authors\u00a0<em class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--em m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--p-em\">Stephen King, Gertrude Stein, John Grisham, Ernest Hemingway, Neil Gaiman, and many more.<\/em><\/p>\n<h4 id=\"m_-8554750413077525544e2d7\" class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf--h4 m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf-after--p m_-8554750413077525544gmail-graf--trailing\"><a class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--anchor m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--h4-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/subscribe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?hl=en&amp;q=https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/subscribe\/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1514038873687000&amp;usg=AFQjCNH5yl1byOuXmZDdLI8muC9FJDeFvg\"><span class=\"m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--strong m_-8554750413077525544gmail-markup--h4-strong\">Get the free guide\u00a0here!<\/span><\/a><\/h4>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Who:\u00a0Jessica Lahey Claim To Fame:\u00a0Jessica Lahey\u00a0is a teacher, writer, and mom. 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