{"id":1602,"date":"2020-01-30T10:00:40","date_gmt":"2020-01-30T10:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/?p=1602"},"modified":"2020-01-30T01:49:26","modified_gmt":"2020-01-30T01:49:26","slug":"ryan-hawk-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.writingroutines.com\/ryan-hawk-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Author and Superstar Podcaster Ryan Hawk On Mentors, Being In A Constant State Of Learning, and What All Great Leaders and Great Writers Have In Common"},"content":{"rendered":"

Who<\/strong>: Ryan Hawk<\/p>\n

Claim To Fame<\/strong>: Ryan Hawk is a keynote speaker, author, advisor, and the host of The Learning Leader Show<\/em><\/a>, a podcast with millions of listeners in more than 150 countries. \u00a0He is the author of the just-released\u00a0Welcome To Management: How To Grow From Top Performer To Excellent Leader<\/a>.\u00a0<\/em>A lifelong student of leadership, he rose to roles as a professional quarterback and VP of Sales at a multibillion-dollar company. Currently, as head of Brixey & Meyer’s leadership advisory practice, Ryan speaks regularly at Fortune 500 companies, works with teams and players in the NFL, NBA, and NCAA, and facilitates “Leadership Circles<\/a>” that offer structured guidance and collaborative feedback to new and experienced leaders.<\/p>\n

Where To Find Ryan<\/strong>: His Website<\/a>, Amazon<\/a>, Twitter<\/a><\/p>\n

Praise For Ryan<\/strong>: \u201cRyan Hawk is a master of dualities: He\u2019s a great leader, but also a ferocious learner. He\u2019s an accomplished athlete, but he\u2019s also excelled in the business world. He\u2019s eminently interesting, but he\u2019s also genuinely interested. Ryan has uncovered the secrets of what the best leaders do and how they think. If you are a new manager transitioning from player to coach, do yourself and your team a favor and read this book. WELCOME TO MANAGEMENT<\/em><\/a> will teach you to lead like the pros and build a team that wins together.\u201d \u2013 Liz Wiseman, New York Times <\/em>bestselling author of Multipliers <\/em><\/a>and Rookie Smarts<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n

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When<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0where<\/a>\u00a0do you like to write? Are you the\u00a0same-thing-every-day kind of writer<\/a>\u00a0or can you write anytime, anywhere?<\/h3>\n

I\u2019m an early riser, so I write a lot before my family wakes up for the day, but by necessity, I also try to be flexible and find ways to prioritize writing without losing track of the other important things in my life. It\u2019s a hard balance, for sure. In writing WELCOME TO MANAGEMENT<\/em><\/a>, <\/em>one quirky way I handled this involved my daughter Ella\u2019s volleyball practices. Right after I signed my book deal with McGraw-Hill, she started playing club volleyball and practiced frequently. I spent hours alternating between writing and watching her practice. To stay productive and on track, I set manageable word-count targets<\/a> (say 100 words) and rewarded myself by standing up and watching her practice for five minutes before returning to writing. I probably wrote more than a third of my 70,000-word book like that.<\/p>\n

Additionally, I hold myself accountable and gather useful insights by booking regular sessions with one or two of my mentors. They pose questions, and then I talk through and record my thoughts. These sessions are helpful for me in terms of moving contents from my brain to the page. I go back to the notes later to fine-tune and edit the writing.<\/p>\n

So, while I find it ideal to work in a secluded place or in the presence of mentors for big chunks of time, I try to be disciplined, balanced, and practical in finding ways to write when the factors I\u2019d prefer aren\u2019t my reality.<\/p>\n

Do you have any\u00a0pre-writing rituals<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0habits<\/a>\u00a0before you sit down to write?<\/h3>\n

I like to stretch my body, drink water, light candles, and listen to Patrick O\u2019Hearn<\/a>\u2019s (instrumental) music.\u00a0I also typically read for 15-30 minutes prior to writing. Words flow easier after I read\u2026<\/p>\n

You run one of the top leadership podcasts<\/a> out there. How has the podcast helped your writing? How has your writing helped your podcast? Are there lessons you\u2019ve been able to take from both paths and apply to the other?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Yes, it definitely works both ways.<\/p>\n

When you regularly have conversations with a wide variety of subject matter experts, and you properly prepare for each one, you can\u2019t help but be in a constant state of learning. THE LEARNING LEADER SHOW<\/em><\/a> \u00a0does that for me, keeping me processing and prioritizing new information for myself and my audiences.<\/p>\n

I am constantly learning from a variety of leaders, each with their own unique and valuable insights. Having recorded 350+ episodes in about 5 years, I benefit from episode frequency and diversity of interviews in terms of staying agile and appealing to wide-ranging audiences. For example, one day I interviewed Jim Collins<\/a>, an established titan of the leadership industry, and then three hours later, I recorded with JJ Redick<\/a>, a professional basketball player.<\/p>\n

Additionally, part of my preparation process for guests on my show is to review their work (books, articles, TED Talks, etc.). Through the prep process, I\u2019m studying some of the greatest thinkers\/writers in the world, and while I\u2019m soaking in their insights, I\u2019m also absorbing their writing styles. One of the best ways to become a better writer is to be a dedicated reader.<\/p>\n

On the flip side, writing a book has also made me a better podcast host. The Learning Leader Show<\/em><\/a> has evolved over time from an interview podcast to a more conversational show.\u00a0For the first couple of years, I asked questions and then got out of the way, letting the guest talk, and then moving on to the next question. Then my listeners started telling me that they were curious to hear my perspectives, so I experimented with sharing what I\u2019ve learned, adding more of my voice, and making it more than a simple Q&A session. That turned out to resonate with my audience, and I enjoy being more involved too. The important point here though, is that I was able to do this effectively as a direct result of writing more. Writing helped to crystallize my thoughts and express them with greater clarity, making me a better conversationalist.<\/p>\n

Given that you\u2019ve had conversations with hundreds of the most accomplished and fascinating leaders and performers in the world, what traits, habits, routines do you think great leaders and great writers have in common?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Intellectual Humility \u2014 They\u2019re comfortable sitting between stubbornness and gullibility.\u00a0The most effective leaders and writers have beliefs, but they also have the confidence to change their mind when better evidence presents itself.<\/p>\n

Consistent Discipline \u2014 Simply put, they show up to do the work each day, including when they don\u2019t feel 100%.<\/p>\n

Thoughtfulness \u2014 They\u2019re able to sit still and think.\u00a0It\u2019s an undervalued skill.<\/p>\n

Act with Intention\/Have a Voice \u2014 They move forward, making rational, reasonable decisions. The best writers and leaders don\u2019t just wander through life; they work with intentionality and purpose.<\/p>\n

Welcome to Management <\/em><\/strong><\/a>is your first book. What were some of the key lessons you learned that you might apply to any future writing projects?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Next time, I\u2019ll identify people who can help and ask for their assistance earlier in the process, both for product quality and visibility.\u00a0I eventually hired multiple people to make my work better. One of the first book-proposal advisors (Sara Stibitz<\/a>) I hired ended up making the introduction to my literary agent, Jim Levine. That was an unintended benefit that marked a critical turning point for me and showed me that the power of connections extends into the writing world, as much as it does the business world.<\/p>\n

What\u00a0books<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0writers<\/a>\u00a0have most influenced the way you think and the way you write?<\/span><\/h3>\n

The Wright Brothers <\/em><\/a>by David McCullough is beautifully written. I\u2019m in awe of the story, the entertaining, and the educational style he chose.<\/p>\n

I owe a lot to Alex Hutchinson<\/a>. Read the beginning of his book Endure <\/em><\/a>to understand how to visually paint the picture of a place. He takes <\/em>you there. I was so moved by his work that I asked him to help me rewrite the opening to my book (and he did!).\u00a0My work is better because of Alex\u2019s generosity.<\/p>\n

Tim Urban<\/a> (waitbutwhy.com<\/a>) is the only person that I voluntarily pay (through Patreon) to read the articles he publishes for free.\u00a0One mark of an intelligent person is the ability to take the complex and make it simple. And when you combine that talent with humor, you end up with the goods.<\/p>\n

Shane Snow<\/a> is an incredible storyteller who uses cliffhangers beautifully. SMARTCUTS<\/a>\u00a0<\/em>kept me turning the page AND learning at the same time.<\/p>\n

Anthony Bourdain. Have you read Kitchen Confidential<\/em><\/a>? Whoa.<\/p>\n

What is your\u00a0advice to aspiring writers<\/a>?<\/h3>\n

Create your personal board of advisors to read your work and offer feedback. They should be excellent writers who have a willingness to tell you the truth with specifics. They also need to know you, your voice, and the message you\u2019re trying to convey to the audience.<\/p>\n

Read your work out loud.\u00a0When I recorded the audio version of my book, it was the first time I had read my book out loud, and I wished then that I\u2019d done it sooner. Fortunately, we still had time for me to make some last-minute edits, but that wouldn\u2019t have happened if I hadn\u2019t read the book out loud in front of a team of audio engineers.<\/p>\n

Like most things in life, writing is a game of repetition. Get the reps in daily. If you want to be a good writer, you need to write.\u00a0 For most people, it takes a while to get to the good stuff. Be willing to push through the bad first drafts<\/a> and keep going.<\/p>\n

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